Missing Program group

Guys and Girls
I have a server that was running SQL Server 2000 (on Windows 2000 server).
In preperation for an upgrade from an old SQL Server 6.5 system. I
un-installed 2000. I edited the registry to remove all references to SQL
Server and deleted all files.
I have run an install of 6.5. It seems to have worked all right except there
is no program groups on my start menu. Any ideas what might have happened?
Regards
Matt"Matt Helm" <Matt Helm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:896F4725-DB82-4774-B600-30E75090F1A0@.microsoft.com...
> Guys and Girls
> I have a server that was running SQL Server 2000 (on Windows 2000 server).
> In preperation for an upgrade from an old SQL Server 6.5 system. I
> un-installed 2000. I edited the registry to remove all references to SQL
> Server and deleted all files.
> I have run an install of 6.5. It seems to have worked all right except
there
> is no program groups on my start menu. Any ideas what might have happened?
> Regards
> Matt
Have you rebooted?
Rick Sawtell
MCT, MCSD, MCDBA|||"Rick Sawtell" wrote:
> "Matt Helm" <Matt Helm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:896F4725-DB82-4774-B600-30E75090F1A0@.microsoft.com...
> > Guys and Girls
> >
> > I have a server that was running SQL Server 2000 (on Windows 2000 server).
> > In preperation for an upgrade from an old SQL Server 6.5 system. I
> > un-installed 2000. I edited the registry to remove all references to SQL
> > Server and deleted all files.
> >
> > I have run an install of 6.5. It seems to have worked all right except
> there
> > is no program groups on my start menu. Any ideas what might have happened?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Matt
> Have you rebooted?
>
> Rick Sawtell
> MCT, MCSD, MCDBA
>
>|||Rick
Yes, several times.
Regards
Matt
"Rick Sawtell" wrote:
> "Matt Helm" <Matt Helm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:896F4725-DB82-4774-B600-30E75090F1A0@.microsoft.com...
> > Guys and Girls
> >
> > I have a server that was running SQL Server 2000 (on Windows 2000 server).
> > In preperation for an upgrade from an old SQL Server 6.5 system. I
> > un-installed 2000. I edited the registry to remove all references to SQL
> > Server and deleted all files.
> >
> > I have run an install of 6.5. It seems to have worked all right except
> there
> > is no program groups on my start menu. Any ideas what might have happened?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Matt
> Have you rebooted?
>
> Rick Sawtell
> MCT, MCSD, MCDBA
>
>|||Sounds like leftovers to me. Things like MDAC levels and such. You would
be better off reimaging the system. Also, you can't install 6.5 on Windows
2000, sorry. Scale it back down to NT 4.
Sincerely,
Anthony Thomas
"Matt helm" <Matthelm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Rick
Yes, several times.
Regards
Matt
"Rick Sawtell" wrote:
> "Matt Helm" <Matt Helm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:896F4725-DB82-4774-B600-30E75090F1A0@.microsoft.com...
> > Guys and Girls
> >
> > I have a server that was running SQL Server 2000 (on Windows 2000
server).
> > In preperation for an upgrade from an old SQL Server 6.5 system. I
> > un-installed 2000. I edited the registry to remove all references to SQL
> > Server and deleted all files.
> >
> > I have run an install of 6.5. It seems to have worked all right except
> there
> > is no program groups on my start menu. Any ideas what might have
happened?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Matt
> Have you rebooted?
>
> Rick Sawtell
> MCT, MCSD, MCDBA
>
>|||Anthony
Thanks for the reply but 6.5 does run on W2K as long as you are running sp5a.
http://www.sqlmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8532
Regards
Matt
"Anthony Thomas" wrote:
> Sounds like leftovers to me. Things like MDAC levels and such. You would
> be better off reimaging the system. Also, you can't install 6.5 on Windows
> 2000, sorry. Scale it back down to NT 4.
> Sincerely,
>
> Anthony Thomas
>
> --
> "Matt helm" <Matthelm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DC23EBE0-2591-4EA8-A9C9-BDBA7972B0EC@.microsoft.com...
> Rick
> Yes, several times.
> Regards
> Matt
> "Rick Sawtell" wrote:
> >
> > "Matt Helm" <Matt Helm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:896F4725-DB82-4774-B600-30E75090F1A0@.microsoft.com...
> > > Guys and Girls
> > >
> > > I have a server that was running SQL Server 2000 (on Windows 2000
> server).
> > > In preperation for an upgrade from an old SQL Server 6.5 system. I
> > > un-installed 2000. I edited the registry to remove all references to SQL
> > > Server and deleted all files.
> > >
> > > I have run an install of 6.5. It seems to have worked all right except
> > there
> > > is no program groups on my start menu. Any ideas what might have
> happened?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> > Have you rebooted?
> >
> >
> > Rick Sawtell
> > MCT, MCSD, MCDBA
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>|||Yes, but you're pushing technologies way beyond their design by doing that.
Hmm, 6.5 is supported on Win2K but 7.0 is not on Win2K3. I would claim that
7.0 and SS2K are more similar to each other as well as Win2K and Win2K3 as
opposed to trying to compare Win NT 4 with either of the other OSes as well
as SS 6.5 with its counterparts.
Let's face it, 6.5 was an NT 4, even NT 3.51 technology.
Anyway, in your case, apparently not. I would still recommend you reimage
the OS before attempting to reinstall 6.5. I've even had trouble with the
6.5 tools on workstations after 7.0 component had been installed. Even if
removed, I had trouble appling 6.5 service packs.
Then, again, you could always recreate them manually-I think it would be
quicker to reinstall the OS.
Sincerely,
Anthony Thomas
"Matt helm" <Matthelm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3AF2B053-0FF2-4161-8B30-3BD38C39B046@.microsoft.com...
Anthony
Thanks for the reply but 6.5 does run on W2K as long as you are running
sp5a.
http://www.sqlmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8532
Regards
Matt
"Anthony Thomas" wrote:
> Sounds like leftovers to me. Things like MDAC levels and such. You would
> be better off reimaging the system. Also, you can't install 6.5 on
Windows
> 2000, sorry. Scale it back down to NT 4.
> Sincerely,
>
> Anthony Thomas
>
> --
> "Matt helm" <Matthelm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DC23EBE0-2591-4EA8-A9C9-BDBA7972B0EC@.microsoft.com...
> Rick
> Yes, several times.
> Regards
> Matt
> "Rick Sawtell" wrote:
> >
> > "Matt Helm" <Matt Helm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:896F4725-DB82-4774-B600-30E75090F1A0@.microsoft.com...
> > > Guys and Girls
> > >
> > > I have a server that was running SQL Server 2000 (on Windows 2000
> server).
> > > In preperation for an upgrade from an old SQL Server 6.5 system. I
> > > un-installed 2000. I edited the registry to remove all references to S
QL
> > > Server and deleted all files.
> > >
> > > I have run an install of 6.5. It seems to have worked all right except
> > there
> > > is no program groups on my start menu. Any ideas what might have
> happened?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> > Have you rebooted?
> >
> >
> > Rick Sawtell
> > MCT, MCSD, MCDBA
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>|||Anthony
You are probably right that I need to rebuild the operating system. I was
hoping not to. I perhaps should have explained that i was installing 6.5
before installing 2000. The server is going to be used to upgrade some old
legacy 6.5 databases to 2000 so that we can finally get away from 6.5 and NT4.
Regards
Matt
"Anthony Thomas" wrote:
> Yes, but you're pushing technologies way beyond their design by doing that.
> Hmm, 6.5 is supported on Win2K but 7.0 is not on Win2K3. I would claim that
> 7.0 and SS2K are more similar to each other as well as Win2K and Win2K3 as
> opposed to trying to compare Win NT 4 with either of the other OSes as well
> as SS 6.5 with its counterparts.
> Let's face it, 6.5 was an NT 4, even NT 3.51 technology.
> Anyway, in your case, apparently not. I would still recommend you reimage
> the OS before attempting to reinstall 6.5. I've even had trouble with the
> 6.5 tools on workstations after 7.0 component had been installed. Even if
> removed, I had trouble appling 6.5 service packs.
> Then, again, you could always recreate them manually-I think it would be
> quicker to reinstall the OS.
> Sincerely,
>
> Anthony Thomas
>
> --
> "Matt helm" <Matthelm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3AF2B053-0FF2-4161-8B30-3BD38C39B046@.microsoft.com...
> Anthony
> Thanks for the reply but 6.5 does run on W2K as long as you are running
> sp5a.
> http://www.sqlmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8532
> Regards
> Matt
> "Anthony Thomas" wrote:
> > Sounds like leftovers to me. Things like MDAC levels and such. You would
> > be better off reimaging the system. Also, you can't install 6.5 on
> Windows
> > 2000, sorry. Scale it back down to NT 4.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Anthony Thomas
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > "Matt helm" <Matthelm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:DC23EBE0-2591-4EA8-A9C9-BDBA7972B0EC@.microsoft.com...
> > Rick
> >
> > Yes, several times.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > "Rick Sawtell" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Matt Helm" <Matt Helm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:896F4725-DB82-4774-B600-30E75090F1A0@.microsoft.com...
> > > > Guys and Girls
> > > >
> > > > I have a server that was running SQL Server 2000 (on Windows 2000
> > server).
> > > > In preperation for an upgrade from an old SQL Server 6.5 system. I
> > > > un-installed 2000. I edited the registry to remove all references to S
> QL
> > > > Server and deleted all files.
> > > >
> > > > I have run an install of 6.5. It seems to have worked all right except
> > > there
> > > > is no program groups on my start menu. Any ideas what might have
> > happened?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > >
> > > Have you rebooted?
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick Sawtell
> > > MCT, MCSD, MCDBA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>|||No, no, I got that. The problem is that you have already installed SS2K
components on that system. It would be a very valid test to start of with
configurations that your upgrade systems do not yet have on them.
However, I would recommend that you build new SS2K installations and then
use the Upgrade Wizard to migrate the data from one host to the next, NOT an
inplace upgrade. I have never had much luck with those and for the very
reason you are seeing now: too many old components and configurations
around. You would be better served starting fresh and just migrating the
contents. Then you can scrub the old box, rebuild it fresh for the next
migration.
Sincerely,
Anthony Thomas
"Matt helm" <Matthelm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2B075981-64DA-4491-B616-9A5EE19C861E@.microsoft.com...
Anthony
You are probably right that I need to rebuild the operating system. I was
hoping not to. I perhaps should have explained that i was installing 6.5
before installing 2000. The server is going to be used to upgrade some old
legacy 6.5 databases to 2000 so that we can finally get away from 6.5 and
NT4.
Regards
Matt
"Anthony Thomas" wrote:
> Yes, but you're pushing technologies way beyond their design by doing
that.
> Hmm, 6.5 is supported on Win2K but 7.0 is not on Win2K3. I would claim
that
> 7.0 and SS2K are more similar to each other as well as Win2K and Win2K3 as
> opposed to trying to compare Win NT 4 with either of the other OSes as
well
> as SS 6.5 with its counterparts.
> Let's face it, 6.5 was an NT 4, even NT 3.51 technology.
> Anyway, in your case, apparently not. I would still recommend you reimage
> the OS before attempting to reinstall 6.5. I've even had trouble with the
> 6.5 tools on workstations after 7.0 component had been installed. Even if
> removed, I had trouble appling 6.5 service packs.
> Then, again, you could always recreate them manually-I think it would be
> quicker to reinstall the OS.
> Sincerely,
>
> Anthony Thomas
>
> --
> "Matt helm" <Matthelm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3AF2B053-0FF2-4161-8B30-3BD38C39B046@.microsoft.com...
> Anthony
> Thanks for the reply but 6.5 does run on W2K as long as you are running
> sp5a.
> http://www.sqlmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8532
> Regards
> Matt
> "Anthony Thomas" wrote:
> > Sounds like leftovers to me. Things like MDAC levels and such. You
would
> > be better off reimaging the system. Also, you can't install 6.5 on
> Windows
> > 2000, sorry. Scale it back down to NT 4.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Anthony Thomas
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > "Matt helm" <Matthelm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:DC23EBE0-2591-4EA8-A9C9-BDBA7972B0EC@.microsoft.com...
> > Rick
> >
> > Yes, several times.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > "Rick Sawtell" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Matt Helm" <Matt Helm@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:896F4725-DB82-4774-B600-30E75090F1A0@.microsoft.com...
> > > > Guys and Girls
> > > >
> > > > I have a server that was running SQL Server 2000 (on Windows 2000
> > server).
> > > > In preperation for an upgrade from an old SQL Server 6.5 system. I
> > > > un-installed 2000. I edited the registry to remove all references to
S
> QL
> > > > Server and deleted all files.
> > > >
> > > > I have run an install of 6.5. It seems to have worked all right
except
> > > there
> > > > is no program groups on my start menu. Any ideas what might have
> > happened?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > >
> > > Have you rebooted?
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick Sawtell
> > > MCT, MCSD, MCDBA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>